hungry?

[rainbowdemon]

Try a 30,000 calorie sandwich!!

http://www.sitepalace.com/derian/

[moodyblue]

Heart attack on a bun!!!!!!

[Ken]

I'm scared, not hungry.

Is that food, or is that some kind of sewer monster that likes to eat pets?

I wouldn't eat that thing to save the world.

[Excrement_Cranium]

That sandwich had enough fried meats on it to make me consider becoming vegetarian. Untill I remembered most of them are whiny assholes.

[method77]

I really don't understand those vegetarians. The human body NEEDS meat and especially red meat cause it's part of the food chain. In reasonable numbers though

[slum_goddess]

i don't understand them either.

[joeyz]

I really don't understand those vegetarians. The human body NEEDS meat and especially red meat cause it's part of the food chain. In reasonable numbers though

I have no problem understanding compassionate people who are into being healthy.

I hate to be the one to break it to you... but...the human body does not NEED meat and especially does NOT need red meat.

[DudeAsInCool]

With a few more pieces of bread, that would make enough meals for the week ;)

[Excrement_Cranium]

I have no problem understanding compassionate people who are into being healthy.

I hate to be the one to break it to you... but...the human body does not NEED meat and especially does NOT need red meat.

Yeah. And let's see:

"Put an apple and a live Rabbit into a crib with a baby, and if the baby eats the Rabbit, I'll believe we're supossed to eat meat."

Actual line from a professional PETA brainwasher, used in a middle school class. Think that one through, try a DEAD rabbit, and tell me what a baby WON'T try to eat.

Compassion. Yeah. Most animal rights people have no problem ending human life to save a f%^&ing dog, that's compassion.

Healthy. Well as long as we get our bunny hugging propoganda across, we will fail to tell people that supplementation is required with a vegetarian diet to make up for lost amino acids, and vitamins which are ONLY found in meat, primarily RED meat. It's called reality and a college education, and NEVER listening to a word that comes out of Moby's mouth.

I apologize for the flame, but like I said, MOST (mind you, not all) vegetarians I encounter blow this crap out like truth. Sorry folks, it's not. Show me an overweight vegetarian (weightgain is a survival adaptation folks, winter wieght) and I'll believe that it's healthy, and survivable in a true natural state, not a McVeggies on every corner.

[KiwiCoromandel]

Try a 30,000 calorie sandwich!!

http://www.sitepalace.com/derian/

yummy.....looks good to me.....i`ll take two thanks..... :)

[joeyz]

I have no problem understanding compassionate people who are into being healthy.

I hate to be the one to break it to you... but...the human body does not NEED meat and especially does NOT need red meat.

Yeah. And let's see:

"Put an apple and a live Rabbit into a crib with a baby, and if the baby eats the Rabbit, I'll believe we're supossed to eat meat."

Actual line from a professional PETA brainwasher, used in a middle school class. Think that one through, try a DEAD rabbit, and tell me what a baby WON'T try to eat.

Compassion. Yeah. Most animal rights people have no problem ending human life to save a f%^&ing dog, that's compassion.

Healthy. Well as long as we get our bunny hugging propoganda across, we will fail to tell people that supplementation is required with a vegetarian diet to make up for lost amino acids, and vitamins which are ONLY found in meat, primarily RED meat. It's called reality and a college education, and NEVER listening to a word that comes out of Moby's mouth.

I apologize for the flame, but like I said, MOST (mind you, not all) vegetarians I encounter blow this crap out like truth. Sorry folks, it's not. Show me an overweight vegetarian (weightgain is a survival adaptation folks, winter wieght) and I'll believe that it's healthy, and survivable in a true natural state, not a McVeggies on every corner.

I believe that any type of unnecessary killing is wrong. The activists you're speaking of represent less than .0001% of vegetarians in this country. They are completely wrong and very twisted individuals. Stereotyping MOST vegetarians as "crap blowers" and "activists" is quite irresponsible.

I personally would rather not kill anything (or contribute to killing) if I don't have to in order to survive and live a healthy life...

As for good health... I am a 205lb 6'2" collegiate athlete that benches over 300lbs. I have never had one bite of meat in my life.. I don't take any supplements. I guess you'd consider me a week little skinny withering vegetarian too???

I too have a college education... Here is some interesting information for you.

A protein which contains all the essential amino acids in proper proportions is called a complete protein. Foods from animal sources, except gelatin, contain complete proteins. Most plant foods contain incomplete protein because they are short one or more of the essential amino acids. By combining plant foods that have complementary essential amino acid mixtures, incomplete plant proteins form complete proteins that supply all of the essential amino acids found in animal products.

- Pat Beck, Nutrition Specialist -North Dakota State University sited here

Bashing vegetarians (generally very conscious individuals) by using gross generalizations just makes you look silly.

Makes you wonder who's really "in touch with reality"

[Excrement_Cranium]

#1 I'm an asshole. I don't relent my point, however, I could communicate it differently. However, the compassion call is bunk. As I sat one night watching Discovery, they had a show on the walrus. They tend to travel in packs. As one bull scooted out to to god knows what, he tumbled over a cliff, thus becoming shattered on the rocks below. The rest of the pack, being animals in need of so much "compassion" followed suit, and nearly 20 others went scooting and tumbling over the cliff to their deaths. My thought, what dumb animals. There is no need for my pity, my compassion. This is the way they live. Most people don't eat walrus, and they are large enough that they don't fear many predators. Good thing, cause they might just cliff dive themselves into extinction.

#2 My stereotyping of vegetarians is founded in the health and compassion attitude carried by most people who either defend or push vegetarian lifestyle. My closest comparison to this is the big Christian slogan of: What if it's right? Most people with either of these arguments adopt them assuming that the context of "we're right, and you should do as we say" is to be missed. The common response to challenging these pompous statements is either a backpedal, or a complete lashing out. I don't walk around telling people that they should eat meat, or go to church. In fact, I could care less what other people do.

#3 While vegetarian diets are seeing some light as being healthy, without simple things like vitamin supplements, a vegetarian, or more specificly, vegan diets, provide large health risks, especially in early and late stages of life.

Vegans, who eat no animal foods (and, rarely, vegetarians who eat no animal

flesh but do eat eggs or dairy products), risk vitamin B12 deficiency, which

can result in irreversible nerve deterioration. The need for vitamin B12

increases during pregnancy, breast-feeding, and periods of growth, according

to Johanna Dwyer, D.Sc., R.D., of Tufts University Medical School and the New

England Medical Center Hospital, Boston. Writing in 1988 in the American

Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Dwyer reviewed studies of the previous five

years and concluded that elderly people also should be especially cautious

about adopting vegetarian diets because their bodies may absorb vitamin B12

poorly.

Ovo-vegetarians, who eat eggs but no dairy foods or animal flesh, and vegans

may have inadequate vitamin D and calcium. Inadequate vitamin D may cause

rickets in children, while inadequate calcium can contribute to risk of

osteoporosis in later years. These vegetarians are susceptible to iron

deficiency anemia because they are not only missing the more readily absorbed

iron from animal flesh, they are also likely to be eating many foods with

constituents that inhibit iron absorption--soy protein, bran, and fiber, for

instance. Vegans must guard against inadequate calorie intake, which during

pregnancy can lead to low birth weight, and against protein deficiency, which

in children can impair growth and in adults

can cause loss of hair and muscle mass and abnormal accumulation of fluid.

http://www.denvernaturopathic.com/news/meat.html

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/CONSUMER/CON00138.html

I would say it's good you are educated. Without proper education on nutritional needs, most people jumping feet first into a vegetarian lifestyle are going to look forward to a trainwreck of health problems later in life.

Not a vegetarian, but there is still too much fried meat on that sandwich.

[joeyz]

However, the compassion call is bunk.

I have no control over whether or not a walrus or a person wants to kill itself/their self. I DO have control over whether or not I want to contribute to unnecessary death or suffering. I choose not to.. it's a personal choice. You choose to eat meat.. that is your choice. I have no comments about YOUR lifestyle.

I don't think there's anything "bunk" about trying to relieve suffering in the world.

BTW I don't think pity and compassion are interchangeable... pity is compassion w/out action.

My whole point was stated in my first post. The human body does NOT NEED meat and especially does NOT NEED red meat to be healthy. (good health is not contingent on meat eating) If I can do it w/out causing additional suffering, then I will even if it means I have to go to some trouble when it comes to organizing my diet (it's really not that hard).

If you stereotype people you ALWAYS miss out on something valuable.

Edited June 25, 2005 by joeyz

[Excrement_Cranium]

Death is inevitable.

That sandwhich would send me gagging and choking to mine.

I'll take a 20oz steak with a side of taters and gravy.

[Redneck4sure]

#1 I'm an asshole.

Not really. I was here first, therefore I am #1 asshole. You will have to settle for being #2 asshole. With lots of effort you may become a bigger asshole but I will always be #1 asshole based on seniority. :bigsmile:

btw, don't let Joeyz fool you. I know for a fact he went deer hunting last yr and managed to get one. He is the only person I know that hunts deer with a motorcycle. Most people kill them with a rifle or bow....I know one guy that shot one with a colt .45 but he is the only person I have ever seen that run one down with a motorcycle. He then had it mounted for a doorbell.

Here is the pic he posted last yr.

[Shawn]

btw, don't let Joeyz fool you. I know for a fact he went deer hunting last yr and managed to get one. He is the only person I know that hunts deer with a motorcycle.

I thought of that too.

Good to see you post Joey

[slum_goddess]

I was here first, therefore I am #1 asshole.

redneck you're so fulla shit--i was here before you, so I'M the no. 1 asshole

[Shawn]

Gotcha's both beat and you know it. ;)

[Excrement_Cranium]

I always like Ron White's minivan deer hunting method.

[Redneck4sure]

Kinda reminds me of the movie "Spaceballs".

Quote, "I'm surrounded by assholes."

[Excrement_Cranium]

Funny you mention that, on another forum I have Dark Helmet as an avatar, with surrounded by assholes on the sig.

[joeyz]

Good to see you post Joey

Thanks Shawn :D

Redneck,

I see some things never change.... ;)

[Redneck4sure]

Redneck,

I see some things never change.... ;)

kinda like my underwear.

[joeyz]

kinda like my underwear.

kinda? :rolleyes: