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not to mention "for lovin' me" and "early mornin' rain" made famous by peter paul and mary, but his originals are pretty darn good

i have that album (or at least one with 80% of that stuff) great stuff my dad used to listen to it when i was a kid eric clapton did a don williams song on his "slowhand" album--we're all the way ever listen to gordon lightfoot? sort of a canadian don williams

i had Bodistadtva going thru my head at the time, so i said what i did latin to me is more percussion and brass, but maybe you are thinking of different Steely Dan stuff than i am

Steely Dan uses very atypical compositions, very tight construction if it isn't jazz, it's damn close (avant garde or smooth maybe?)

Zoot Sims tenor/soprano sax Art Pepper alto sax Art Tatum piano nore variations on my favorite theme, bepop/ lounge

the idea falls apart when you realize that just because someone records a song first, it doesn't mean it's "theirs" lots of professional songwriters out there that never record a song for release---example--Patsy Cline's signature song "Crazy"--she recorded it first, but Willie Nelson wrote it, and made a release after Cline--so was it a remake? or was hers?

go nuts the thing is, i covered the stuff i like that's why i opened the floor at the end--so others could put their faves jazz is huge, and crosses into blues, rock, and any other number of genres the fact that there are styles i didn't mention by no means says that they don't exist or aren't popular or worth listening to--i'm not a big fan of smooth, but nobody can love everything, right? now that p2p is around and you can sample the stuff for free, try it all! (as a sidenote, emusic.com and allmusic.com have lots of good info and reviews, all cross referenced to others)

i would have, but i was sick of typing Traffic and Blind Faith are fairly jazz influenced also quick addition of King Curtis sax and Champion Jack DuPree piano

there are many variants of jazz, and it is helpful to hear many of them to decide where your particular tastes lie--so here we go, from an historical and stylistic timeline (not comprehensiv, just a basic overview, add to it with your own favorites) early--dixieland/ragtime--roots in new orleans, heavy on brass and piano--this is a wide genre that spans from Scott Joplin stuff from the late 1800's to today. as with everything jazz, there is a certain amount of overlap old:Jellyroll Morton --he was recorded by John Lomax in the 1920's--his music is populated by a large brass section, an acoustic guitar (usually inaudible) , and a piano recent:Leon Redbone--using the same basic instrumentation as Jellyroll (and songs from the era), Redbone modifies the formula slightly by replacing some brass with his voice (since Redbone is an anachronism, his music has sort of fallen into the "novelty" category) more recent:Squirrel Nut Zippers riding on a swing invasion about 5 years ago, they had a hit with their new orleans stylings in the form of "Hell"--heavy on brass, acoustic rhythm guitat on the side improv/scat vocals become more prominent, including nonsense lyrics or "scatting" instrumentation gets a little more sparse, less regimented old Louis Armstrong he got his start in King Oliver's orchestra, and set out on his own--his career spanned from the 20's until his death in the 1970's--a trumpeter, but also famous for scat recent Denver and the Mile High Orchestra another throwback, a combo of old big band orchestras and scat Lounge small combos-- trios, quartets, quintets often include a trumpet/coronet, bass, piano, or sax--very tight compositions but they still allow for each player to have an improvised solo. (this is one of my favorites) Dave Brubeck his combos include as many as 8 members (sometimes his son on bass)--piano driven. a great starter album is "Time Out!" Vince Guaraldi most famous for his work on Charlie Brown cartoons, he has a much wider selection including latin rooted jazz Cannonball and Nat Adderley sax led lounge (as opposed to piano led like Brubeck and Guaraldi) for Julius "Cannonball", and coronet for Nat--they often worked together recent Ben Foldsrock merged with Brubeck style piano-led lounge--i like this a lot Latin lots of percussion--congos, bongos, and marimbas, very gritty vocals, high energy, and lots of brass--influenced by the music of the Carribbean and South America Poncho Sanchez personifies the above description, often infusing jazz standards with gigawatts of pure energy Carl Tjader a variation on the latin theme, flutes, bass--more mellow and subded than the raw energy of Poncho or Tito Puente, but still excellent Mongo Santamaria he had a hit in the 60's with "Watermelon Man", often used in commercials to personify "hip" products--he isn't afraid to yell in the middle of a song--high energy Solo Legends artists that carved their own niche Bill Evans there are 2 (3 if you count Yusef Lateef, since that was his name too) one sax, and one piano--the piano Bill evans made about 100 solo albums--the sax one is still working--Piano Bill did some pretty avant-garde stuff, lots of ground to cover if you check him out Miles Davistrumpet an unbelievable variety of stuff, ranging from trio and lounge to wahwah pedal fueled weirdness--a 50 year career with more than 100 releases of his own, plus collaborations Django Reinhart early pioneer of classical/jazz guitar insert your faves here!

i moved in here last night and look what happens? the neighborhood goes all to hell welcome all

man oh man after today, i'm thinking zero-what? great to see all the people i want to see in one convenient location

i have 2 of his albums with the cheap sit serenaders they sing (of course) ragtime and 1920's stuff (see any patterns developing here? i think i posted about 5 things with the word ragtime)

a lot of modern blues musicians are adding Malian performers to their bands being spoiled as i am by p2p , i sought some out and found Oumou Sangare, featuring a collection of Malian artists, one of the most exotic (but excellent) collections of sounds i ever found if you can get it, give it a listen--interesting stuff

crumb from a documentary about r. crumb the outsider cartoonist and his oddball family cool ragtime stuff

he did that one solo on stage, then towards the end his bass player and steel guy came back and the steel guitar made the most mournful train like sounds you could ever hear--it was eerie, but beautiful (and of course appropriate for the subject of the song) he opened with "Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore" another vietnam era song that seems unusually appropriate in the current environment

i saw them in madison a few weeks ago Redbone was an enigma in B-flat--a real oddball-- a throwback to the 1920s, but he was great. as were his sidemen, a trumpeter and a ragtime pianist Prine is one of the best singer/songwriters you probably never heard of--he isn't really definable--some political satire and sly commentaries on the human experience hidden in a raspy sort of country/sort of rock/sort of folk shell he played all of his best stuff, and a song that he's doing for the upcoming Johnny Cash tribute album overall (other than annoying people yelling requests) it was an awesome show

how's that country music treating you? thank god now i'm off the hot seat

trombone panorama (1957) is officially in the archive

anyone can have anything they want (via pm)

most people have never heard of Paul Pena, but have you ever heard the song "jet airliner" by the Steve Miller Band? that was Paul's song he made an album, called New Train, which was shelved in 1973--just in time to put Steve Miller sales through the roof. he fell off the radar for a few decades, and learned about Tuvan throat singing, and went to Tuva (i think Mongolia) and beat the Tuvans at their own game--this was the subject of a documentary called Ghengis Blues (which also has a soundtrack) if you want some blues, this guy will blow your mind (Ghengis Blues could also qualify as world, with the throat singing)

thanks everybody

flood was the only tape my brother had worth borrowing, but by the time i figured that out, it was already gone oh well

they all are, well at least i think so their music is often hilarious, but the melodies and arrangements are complex they don't really fall well into categories, but the same can be said for lots of stuff that's worth listening to

the edison museum might want them maybe ebay as for TMBG, yeah the song was called "i can hear you" on the album "factory showroom" about celphones and viper car alarms, recorded on a wax cylinder

those are cool and all, but finding a player would be very difficult the band "they might be giants" recorded a song on wax cylinders at the edison museum--very odd sound to it, but cool--oddly enough the song was about technological advances.