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Posted on Sun, Apr. 18, 2004
Scripps Howard News Service
Bob Dylan just released “Live 1964: Concert at Philharmonic Hall,” arguably one of the last great live albums
Musical dinosaurs
Career-defining live albums are becoming extinct
Bob Dylan’s new “Live 1964: Concert at Philharmonic Hall” might look like just another compact disc. But it’s actually a dinosaur on the verge of extinction: the last of the great live albums.
That’s not to say the live album is dying. Between Internet file-sharing and Pearl Jam and other bands selling CDs of every show they play, more recorded live music is in circulation than ever before.
What is gone for good are the iconic, career-defining live albums that thrived in the 1970s. The Who’s “Live at Leeds,” Cheap Trick’s “At Budokan” and “Frampton Comes Alive” were signposts of an era and all its gatefold-packaged, drum-solo glory.
“There were a lot of acts that broke through with live albums in the ’70s,” says Jim Henke, chief curator of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland. “(Peter) Frampton, (Bob) Seger, Humble Pie, the Allman Brothers, Cheap Trick. You’d have a history of touring to build up a fan base, then put out a live album ... All those fans went and got it, and you were selling platinum. The two-record live album became almost standard … It was like a rite of passage, a defining moment in a band’s career.”
Dylan is one of the few acts that rates more than one definitive, historically important live album. “Concert at Philharmonic Hall” was recorded on Halloween night, 1964, capturing one of the last moments when he was still the darling of the 1950s folk revival. Soon after, Dylan’s move away from folk and into electric rock ’n’ roll would get him branded a “Judas.”
But “Concert at Philharmonic Hall” depicts an affable night, with a four-song cameo by Joan Baez and an unusual amount of banter between Dylan and the audience. Even though it’s only now seeing an official release, collectors have treasured bootleg recordings of this show for years. One of them is Jacob Larson, a University of Michigan graduate student. Larson already had the “Philharmonic” bootleg, but pre-ordered a copy of the CD because he wanted the better-sounding remastered version.
Larson is an avid live-music collector who owns about 2,500 concert CDs of acts from Dylan to Phish. He recently started a Yahoo online group called Vinelist to help other collectors trade live recordings, and to build his own collection.
“It’s not a superior feeling, exactly,” Larson says. “But I do feel like I know more about music than people who aren’t into live recordings.”
Larson bought live Metallica for his wife, but “she never listens to them because they just duplicate the studio sound. She’s also really into rap, and there’s no point to live rap, I don’t believe."
At the other extreme are the jam bands Larson collects. They have flooded the market by recording and releasing virtually every show they play. Partly, that’s a defensive move. A band such as Phish is so widely bootlegged that live recordings of every show are going to circulate whether the band likes it or not.
“You can get a pretty respectable digital recorder that’s the size of a cigarette pack,” says Dennis McNally, spokesman for the Grateful Dead. “So every show is taped no matter what a band thinks – unless you want to strip-search the audience. If you want any show badly enough, you can find it.”
Actually, the Grateful Dead had a lot to do with the death-by-drowning of the live album. The Dead was one of the first bands to record all of its performances, and it has tapes of about half the 2,500 concerts it played in its 30-year run. The Dead was also the first band to allow audiences to record its concerts, with “taping tickets” to segregate tapers behind the soundboard.
“A lot of bands cater to the fact that they’re taped every time and change up their shows a lot,” says Tony Stephens, a computer drafter at North Carolina State University who collects live jam-band recordings. “Every show is unique, and they try not to repeat anything, whereas someone like Britney Spears does pretty much the same show every night.”
Two other music milestones came along in the early 1980s that contributed to the live album’s eventual demise. One was the introduction of the compact disc in 1982, which led to the eventual death of vinyl – a medium that offered the perfect size and heft for live albums.
The other major contributor was MTV, which debuted in 1981 and dramatically sped up pop music’s half-life. Acts exploded overnight and sold more records faster than ever before. The tradeoff was that they didn’t last as long, and didn’t work as live-performance acts.
Yet even if the live album’s mystique is gone, live recordings aren’t going away. The latest wrinkle is the authorized live album you can buy at the show. Last year, Clear Channel Entertainment introduced its “Instant Live” program and did a test run with an Allman Brothers’ concert in Raleigh. It was a success, with 800 three-disc sets sold to a crowd of about 6,200.
Clear Channel will extend the program this year, although it might be a few years before it’s standard at every show.
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazett...ing/8461302.htm
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as a parent of a child that was expelled 3 days for fighting, I only have this to say, ( my daughter by the way, didn't start a fight but unfortunately she fought back, I tried to always tell her to walk away, but this had been building) and the point is for some reason in elementary school social science doesn't seem to include the chapter about dealing with others in confrontational situations, I know teachers can't fill in for what parents should be doing, but they do see the tensions in the classroom with everyday arguments and petty differences, I seem to recall teachers becoming involved more, using those as examples of situations reflecting what the student would face as an adult, and the proper way to handle it, I know these kids definitely had problems that killed in columbine but the school has some responsiblity in keeping the school free from hostilities so that students can attend without stress. Part of growing up is learning how to deal with others and to be able to take insults, but it's also learning fairness, standing up against prejudice, all topics that should be discussed at home, but school is the place to learn the skills to debate and investigate those issues. Am I out of touch?
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now wouldn't that be a treat! hey, they covered bob seger fairly well, I'm sure they'd be playing JB songs and not vice versa,lol
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At Slim's:
333 11th Street
San Francisco, California
A Benefit for Spencer Dryden
May 1,2004
Showtime: 8:00 PM (Doors: 7:00 PM)
Ticket price: $40 [ Purchase From Virtuous ]
All Ages
Please come down to Slim's for an evening of merriment and music in support of Jefferson Airplane, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Dinosaurs drummer, Spencer Dryden, who recently lost everything in a fire and on top of it all, has medical issues to deal with. This is our chance to give back to someone who has given musical enjoyment to so many people throughout the years, and has now fallen on subdued times. Spencer's a salty old road dog and not one to complain... but we can insist on helping him. He and his family are very grateful to you all for your support. This evening features the Flying Other Brothers with special guests Bob Weir & Warren Haynes, David Nelson & Friends with special guest Peter Rowan, Nick Gravenites with guests David Freiberg, Greg Elmore, and Pete Sears, Wavy Gravy and Chet Helms, and a late night jam session including guests Kathy Peck & Peter Kaukonen. Many interesting auction items, including some donated by fellow Jefferson Airplane band members, will be on display at the show and offered for sale through Ebay
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Jackson Browne will be honored by ASCAP (American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers) at the 21st annual Pop Music Awards held on May 18 at the Beverly Hilton hotel in Beverly Hills, California. Also honored that night will be the band Metallica. Over 600 leading songwriters, recording artists and music industry leaders are expected to gather at the black-tie gala to salute the songwriters and publishers of ASCAP's most performed songs of the year.
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Playing the 'race card'
By Mark Shields
Creators Syndicate
WASHINGTON (Creators Syndicate) -- Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-New York, and Sen. Ernest "Fritz" Hollings, D-South Carolina, must be driving the right wing absolutely bananas.
Here is the story up to now: Rangel and Hollings have made a joint call to revive the military draft -- along with the admirable American tradition of the citizen-soldier -- because, in Hollings' words, most especially at a time of war "we must all shoulder the burden of defending our nation."
The Rangel-Hollings summons reminds us that, to name just a few, among those who answered their country's call to serve in uniform during World War II were all four of the president of the United States' sons, and future baseball Hall of Famers Hank Greenberg, Ted Williams, and Joe DiMaggio, along with heavyweight boxing champion Joe Louis, and Hollywood's Clark Gable, Jimmy Stewart, Kirk Douglas and Mel Brooks.
Future American leaders Gerald Ford, John Kennedy, Barry Goldwater, Richard Nixon, George McGovern and Dwight Eisenhower all served. The young sons of Massachusetts Republican Sen. Leverett Saltonstall, New York Democratic Gov. Herbert Lehman, former U.S. Ambassador to Great Britain Joseph Kennedy and FDR's closest political confidant, Harry Hopkins, were all killed in combat.
So apoplectic apparently are today's conservative opponents over any possible return to the draft that their preferred line of argument is to go nuclear and unfairly accuse Rangel and Hollings, as former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger did in The Wall Street Journal, of "attempting to play both the race and the class-warfare cards."
That dog simply won't hunt. Yes, according to the Defense Department's own figures, African Americans, who comprise only 12 percent of the total civilian population, do account for nearly 30 percent of Army enlistees. But race is the straw man that opponents of the draft -- not Rangel and Hollings -- have raised. What the two Democrats have confronted and spotlighted is that dirty little ugly secret of American life that is avoided in polite and prosperous circles: class.
Combat veterans Rangel and Hollings both understand that today's U.S. military is the nation's public institution most integrated by race and -- simultaneously -- most segregated by class.
The result is a military that is the total opposite of that which won World War II: the sons of the nation's most affluent and most influential families are overwhelmingly missing from the enlisted ranks of the military. The most privileged are woefully underrepresented, particularly in the enlisted ranks.
As Rangel rightly pointed out on the "Today" show, when the nation does go to war, "more poor whites, especially from the rural areas, will be put in harm's way."
Hollings puts the case this way: "It is not the army that fights a war; it is the country that fights a war." Hollings painfully remembers Vietnam, when no sacrifices were asked of civilians on the home front, while millions of young Americans were sent to fight -- and 58,135 were sent to die -- in the jungles of Southeast Asia.
Conservatives (and liberals) who worship the all-volunteer military must concede that something is now profoundly wrong in this democratic society of ours when the most privileged and advantaged classes overwhelmingly choose -- when combat is all but certain -- to go AWOL.
Not once -- not to the students at his alma mater, Yale, not to any gathering of the College Republicans, nor the young business leaders -- has President George W. Bush publicly ever urged, asked or even suggested to anyone that any one of them serve his or her nation by enlisting in the military.
Because the message from the commander in chief continues to be that, here at home, we, civilians, will pay no price, we will bear no burden, and that any conflict will be essentially ouchless, painless and costless, the United States is today spiritually, emotionally and civicly unprepared for war.
For forcing us to confront, however briefly and however reluctantly, the real class divide in our society over who shoulders the burden of sacrifice -- and who avoids and evades any possibility of sacrifice -- Charlie Rangel and "Fritz" Hollings are doing their nation and their fellow citizens an important and valuable service.
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no way jose!
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kooper, but, but, Black Oak Arkansas did a mean "Jim Dandee to the ressssscue!"
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well my top 5 would beeeeeeeeeee, lol
1. atticus finch - to kill a mockingbird
2. vito corleone - the godfather
3. scarlet o'hara - gone with the wind
4. robin hood - the adventures of robin hood
5. james bond - goldfinger
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The Poetry of Donald Rumsfeld, Put to Music
CD Features Songs Based on Defense Secretary's Statements
The Poetry of Donald Rumsfeld and Other Fresh American Art Songs
March 12, 2004 -- Last year, Donald Rumsfeld's pronouncements from Pentagon briefings and media interviews were arranged into poems. Now those poems have been put to music.
Columnist Hart Seely put the defense secretary's words to poetry in the book "Pieces of Intelligence: The Existential Poetry of Donald Rumsfeld." One poem, "The Unknown," was based on one of Rumsfeld's most famous phrasings: "There are known knowns. There are things we know we know..." (See the full text below.)
San Francisco-based pianist Bryant Kong put the poems to music in "The Poetry of Donald Rumsfeld," issued on his newly formed label, Stuffed Penguin Music.
No, Rumsfeld doesn't sing. That job falls to a soprano.
Kong tells NPR's Renee Montagne that he composed the songs for friend Elender Well, who hardly sounds like the secretary of defense. "Certainly if I knew a tenor or a baritone, then we would have written them for him," Kong says. "Any singer can, as it were, play the Donald Rumsfeld character in a musical."
Below are selected lyrics from "The Poetry of Donald Rumsfeld."
The Unknown
As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don't know
We don't know.
Department of Defense news briefing
Feb. 12, 2002
A Confession
Once in a while,
I'm standing here, doing something.
And I think,
"What in the world am I doing here?"
It's a big surprise.
Interview with The New York Times
May 16, 2001
Happenings
You're going to be told lots of things.
You get told things every day that don't happen.
It doesn't seem to bother people, they don't--
It's printed in the press.
The world thinks all these things happen.
They never happened.
Everyone's so eager to get the story
Before in fact the story's there
That the world is constantly being fed
Things that haven't happened.
All I can tell you is,
It hasn't happened.
It's going to happen.
Department of Defense briefing
Feb. 28, 2003
The Digital Revolution
Oh my goodness gracious,
What you can buy off the Internet
In terms of overhead photography!
A trained ape can know an awful lot
Of what is going on in this world,
Just by punching on his mouse
For a relatively modest cost!
click on the link to listen with real player or windows media player
http://www.hws.edu/news/update/showwebclip...?webclipid=1344
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definitely a different experience when using others besides midnight metal, I noticed the others were somewhat easier to maneuver, but midnight metal sorta goes more with the theme of the site, I was surprised the difference in the options in the different forums. good job! whoever did it.
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now how can someone view this post and not respond, I give up if this gets a million views and no responses, lol
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and I was looking to see what the "test" was
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I selected midnight metal, it's kinda cool, just wondered what everyone else was looking at, lol
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ic the beatles made the list, ob la di, ob la da, lol oh well, life goes on!
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Da house of the rising Sun
By David Sinclair
Viewpoint: Save a prayer for the singers who have found God and poor sales
IT HAPPENS at some point in many a pop star’s career. Having pursued a lifestyle of hedonistic excess, nourished by a daily diet of sex and drugs, they suddenly get religion.
Prince is the latest in a long line of unlikely mid-life converts — a gang not to be confused with the Gospel choirs of Christian pop stars nurtured by the church (Patti Labelle, Whitney Houston, R. Kelly), the young ’uns from Christian families (Boyz II Men, the Backstreet Boys) or the Contemporary Christian Music brigade (P.O.D, Evanescence and Incubus).
Prince, who not so long ago was hymning the delights of non-stop sexual congress in songs such as Sexy MF and Superfunkycalifragisexy, is now to be found accosting residents in his home town of Minneapolis with the question, “Would you like to talk about Jesus?”
He is now a Jehovah’s Witness. “We have watched Prince since he started studying the Bible and noticed a dramatic change,” said Ronald Scofield, an elder of Chanhassen Congregation, Prince’s place of worship. “It’s something to be very proud of.”
Which is more than can be said about the purple one’s fluctuating fortunes in the pop marketplace in recent years.
And Madonna, whose show was once deemed blasphemous by the Vatican, has refused to schedule any performance on her forthcoming tour on a Friday, in order not to contravene the doctrines of her newfound religion. Madonna is an adherent of kabbalah, an offshoot of the Jewish faith, which has become fashionable with a raft of celebs, including Stella McCartney, Courtney Love and Britney Spears.
But in a case of the biter being bit, Madonna has run into trouble in her attempt to stage a huge show in Ireland on August 29, a Sunday. A local priest has described Madonna’s decision to perform there on the Sabbath as “inconsiderate and insensitive” in a largely Catholic country. Touché!
Why is it so tedious to hear about these singers preaching some gospel or other that they have just discovered?
Partly it is the suspicion that they have simply picked up these doctrines as another off-the-peg lifestyle accessory. Having amassed untold riches, indulged their every material whim and been pampered like deities, they now feel the need for spiritual fulfilment. They want to talk to us about Jesus, but do we want to listen?
Sinéad O’Connor, who in 1992 tore up a picture of the Pope on the US TV show Saturday Night Live, was ordained as a priest in the Latin Tridentine Church in 1999. Her album Faith and Courage (2000) was crammed with a hotchpotch of religious references, including a Kyrie Eleison. It was, by far, her least successful album.
For the pop star, getting religion can be a survival tactic. When Boy George joined the Hare Krishnas, it was a step towards cleaning up his act. “The beliefs of the Hare Krishnas have helped me get off drugs and alcohol — and I love their music,” he said. It is too bad that nobody liked George’s after his conversion, for he enjoyed no more significant hits under his own name, let alone under the cringe- making group identity of Jesus Loves You which he adopted.
But with so many stars having turned to the scriptures, from the Old Testament musings of Bob Dylan and Nick Cave to the Buddhist beliefs of Tina Turner, Beastie Boy Adam Yaunch and Annie Lennox, could there be more to the quest for spiritual fulfilment than meets the eye?
“The world is craving spirituality so much right now,” Carlos Santana said in 1995. “You can only wake up to it, and music is the best alarm.”
This seems to be what happens to many stars, who can find it difficult to accept that they are the authors of the music that has made them successful. Musicians often say that their songs seem to arrive fully formed from the ether. Faced with the extraordinary adulation which their music produces, these stars start to acquire a Messiah syndrome themselves unless they shift responsibility for their gift to a higher being.
But it is curious how the timing of these spiritual calls often coincides with a decline in the artist’s stock. For many performers, faced with a slide from the peak, the idea of dedicating their lives to a higher calling suddenly appeals.
As Prince said, when called upon to explain why he had abdicated his pop throne to study the scriptures: “I’ve been to the top of the mountain, and there was nothing there
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7948-1076812,00.html
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April 18, 2004
Table: The music millionaires
1 Clive Calder ¹ £1,235m
2 Sir Paul McCartney £760m
3 Lord Lloyd-Webber £400m
4 Sir Cameron Mackintosh £340m
5 Simon Fuller £220m
6 Madonna and Guy Ritchie £215m
7 Robert Stigwood £200m
8 Sir Mick Jagger £180m
9= Sir Elton John £175m
9= Sting £175m
11= Tom Jones £165m
11= Keith Richards £165m
13 Sir Tim Rice £137m
14 Jamie Palumbo £136m
15= Phil Collins £130m
15= Olivia and Dhani Harrison £130m
17 Eric Clapton £120m
18 Ringo Starr £115m
19 Chris Wright £112m
20 David Bowie £102m
21 Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne £100m
22 Barry and Robin Gibb £94m
23 Charlie Watts £80m
24= Roger Waters £78m
24= Robbie Williams £78m
26= Dave Gilmour £75m
26= Engelbert Humperdinck £75m
26= Rod Stewart £75m
29= Victoria and David Beckham £65m
29= Mark Knopfler £65m
29= George Michael £65m
29= Jimmy Page £65m
29= Robert Plant £65m
29= Ronnie Wood £65m
35 Bryan Morrison £60m
36 Brian May £55m
37= John Deacon £50m
37= Nick Mason £50m
37= Roger Taylor £50m
40 Van Morrison £48m
41 Simon Cowell ¹ £45m
42= Jay Kay ¹ £40m
42= Daniel Miller ¹ £40m
42= Sir Cliff Richard ¹ £40m
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2108-1066949,00.html
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pass your mouse over the screen :)
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/analysis/to...hell/index.html
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Reuters
Tuesday, April 20, 2004; 8:22 AM
By Joelle Diderich
PARIS (Reuters) - Spanish artist Pablo Picasso applied for French citizenship just before German troops invaded France in 1940, but was turned down because police saw him as a Communist sympathizer, a new exhibition shows.
Picasso's brief letter of application, featuring his instantly recognizable signature, is the highlight of an exhibition of 40 years of police surveillance of the celebrated artist, which opened at the Paris Police Museum Tuesday.
The records, among hundreds of files stolen by the Nazis during World War II and seized by the Russians in 1945, lay in KGB vaults in Moscow for decades before being returned to France in 2000.
Claude Charlot, director of the Police Museum, said Picasso's close friend and biographer Pierre Daix was stunned to discover the artist had applied for French naturalization.
"It was a total surprise. Nobody knew," he told Reuters.
The exhibition shows authorities kept tabs on Picasso from his arrival in Paris in 1901, starting with a domestic intelligence report which said he was staying with a suspected anarchist and concluded that he must share the same politics.
The report painted the 19-year-old artist as a rebel who "sometimes stays out all night." It said his concierge had never heard him express subversive opinions but that Picasso's French was so bad that he was hard to understand at all.
The rest of Picasso's files consist mainly of administrative documents that record his comings and goings between numerous homes. "The police kept an eye on him, but sporadically," Charlot said.
REPUBLICAN BACKER
By the late 1930s, Picasso was world famous and paid a fortune in taxes to the French state.
He had also become a prominent backer of Spain's Republican government fighting the fascist rebellion of Francisco Franco. Picasso's 1937 mural "Guernica" famously denounced the massacre of Basque villagers by German bombers allied to Franco.
The painter most likely applied for French citizenship because he was afraid his goods would be seized if Spain declared war on France, Charlot said.
Although a local police report backed his request, the domestic intelligence unit highlighted his links with the Communist Party, which also supported the Republican cause.
"He should even be considered suspect from a national viewpoint," it said, prompting the Justice Ministry to bury the request.
Picasso, renowned for his fierce pride, never forgave the slight and although he never again set foot in Spain proclaimed he would die Spanish. The artist, who joined the Communist Party after the liberation of France in 1945, died in 1973 without seeing democracy restored in Spain.
"I think he must have been profoundly humiliated that France did not say yes," said Charlot. "He never again repeated the request and he never spoke about it."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2004Apr20.html
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you know, on these award shows they look down on artists expressing their political views, another example of the changing times, artists would make a point of using their music and lyrics along with influence to speak out during the lennon years, did u ever "imagine" it would get to this point?
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you're right kooper, musically it didn't appeal to me at the time, but I think it was mostly composed to get out his message. For the times, he really had alot of nerve, in my opinion, today, he'd really be viewed as a radical more so than back then!
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anyone have John &Yoko/Pastic Ono Band the album that looks like a newspaper front page? what a window to the 60's & 70's! it's a double album and the individual album paper covers are great too, one is a copy of Frank Zappa's "Mothers" Fillmore East - june 1971, john wrote all over it, front and back, if you want an insight to john lennon, this would be an interesting album to hear and just look at, lol
this was a clip of the weather in the upper right corner of the album, as it used to be on the front page of papers everywhere:
WEATHER: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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I'm being honest when I say, I've always thought bush was on some religious crusade from the very beginning of his presidency, it's not only his mission to "change the world" as he commented at his last "press" conference ( if you wanna call it that), but since he's been in office, I've noticed freedoms are being challenged at every turn in america, the FCC is deciding what's good for us, taking away our choices and enlisting monopolies like Clear Channel so you really don't have many options as far as tv and radio, the administration is convinced all america will be better off for it, that's how out of touch they are! I will admit when my daughter was younger, she's 16 now, I didn't want her exposed to alot of violence and sex on tv and radio, but I was able to control that, now part of evolving is being able to make those choices for herself, the face of entertainment has changed over the years, events and happenings that were never covered before are there for everyone to see, it doesn't change things to close our eyes.
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an interview with bob woodward, raises alot of questions in my mind, the constitution for one!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/15/...ain612067.shtml
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well of course I'm going to say "filmore east - live" the allman brothers band, but csn&y 4 way street was a great live album that must have gone platinum too.