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Umm that might make traffic bunch up a bit. :bigsmile:She said its inconspicuous design has been a big winner with women and claims the sex toy, totally unrelated to Apple, is perfect for giving users "big smiles on their way to work".lol. this reminds me of a story my parents used to tell when they were still together and pretending to be happy.
My mother was one of those innocent, religious girls growing up who, when she gets to college, turns into a wild woman.
So, she took an art class while in school and, for her final project, decided to make a 6foot tall paper mache penis (the artistic symbolism being: all men are dicks). Macon, Georgia was a small town at the time and she had no transportation so she had to walk the project to school.
So, apparently, my mother was strolling down the street with one of her friends, both wearing daisy dukes, while carrying a 6foot penis. As you can imagine, this got just a few stares. Ultimately, it ended up causing a 3 car accident.
Its a funny story and funnier when my mother tells it. I know it has nothing to do with the topic (except in an ancillary way) but I wanted to share it as I was reminded of it. :psychofun:
Enjoy your iPODs ladies! ;)
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all marines? imus I dont know about.
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I think that the confusion here comes from the fact that Waters developed the concept for the character "Pink". therefore, its logical for many to assume that he himself IS Pink when in fact Pink is certainly an amalgamation of characteristics of all the band members- but specifically of waters and barett.
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Mkay here we go again
Dennis Rodman
Jennifer Lopez
Liza Minnelli
they all are known to wear feathered boas from time to time!
as an aside, I met liza minelli one time while visiting with my father at a sleepaway camp for adults. erm... thats a rehab camp actually. and since this is beatking, I will mentions that the "toxic twins" built a building at same rehab center after recovering there. its a building in the round, full of murals and all that and sits on a hill overlooking this entire little town. pretty sweet views for a buncha addicts.
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Robert Deniro
Marlon Brando
Al Pacino
3 ages of vito corleone. that reminded me of that old riddle about the guy crawling on 4 limbs in the morning, walking on two in the afternoon, and using 3 in the twilight.
hell, pacino played michael so.....yeah, I got that wrong. they did all play "The Godfather" though!
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yeah... I dont think they ever did sing any songs together... and this is what I meant by were together on Blue Valentine:
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Im not too sure DAIC>... Blue Valentine is one album I believe they worked together on. and definetely WERE together on!
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More like "Fire up the money making machine for Moore".
It doesn't matter what happens tomorrow, because tomorrow, Moore will become more wealthy.
The "debate" is only fuel for his income.
I must disagree here. you see, Moore is a talented documentary director and also more than capable of playing to the press as all can see. He is certainly self serving and sensationalist. that is not worth debating it is so true. BUT, I would argue that Moore could be making the same, if not more, money if he bought into the establishment, toed the party line, and produced similar documentaries- only this time, doing them from a conservative "align yourself with those in power" bent.
in my mind, love the guy or hate him, it is the individuals choice. but, any man who has the courage of his convictions, the courage to produce such controversial documentaries and books in this time and political climate because that is what he believes deserves nothing but respect- even from his detractors.
I mean, lets face it. he is making powerful documentaries with his books and movies. and sure he is getting rich. but dont you think that there might just be an easier way to acquire wealth than to expose such things (be they true or not, I dont mean to start a debate on that) as he does? because, quite simply, some of the things that he documents- if true- could quite easily get him mysteriously killed and he is (like it or not) smart enough to realize it.
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His skills were never in question.
never meant to imply that they were. in fact, I havent heard anything of smash since he developed that ill fated p2p program 3 or however many years ago and many people were giving him shit and otherwise discouraging him- once to the point that I believe he wanted to quit as I reacll. I said what I said as I was recalling how I was one of the few (that I recall) encouraging him at that point.
so like I said, Im glad he's kept on at it. this just proves to all those naysayers from back when that he has what it takes.
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cool, thanks for the info umma. wish you were here is one of my favorite post barrett albums (the others being meddle, the final cut, dark side, animals, etc. -well you get the idea) and have a cigar always had a special place in my heart.
I guess I didnt realize that the question "which one's pink/" was referring back to have a cigar as I thought everyone in the thread was debating pink as barrett or waters (for the most part) as well as the wall's place in it.
sorry for the mixup!
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but.... there will be more to come, be afraid! :reallymad: actually, as reiteration, anyone wanting any "info" on the albums behind any of the song lyrics I post should feel more than free to pm me with their interest.
this is perhaps my other favorite song by Waits... I do have tons of em though really:
Tom Traubert's Blues
Wasted and wounded, it ain't what the moon did, I've got what I paid for now
See you tomorrow, hey Frank, can I borrow a couple of bucks from you
To go waltzing Mathilda, waltzing Mathilda,
You'll go waltzing Mathilda with me
I'm an innocent victim of a blinded alley
And I'm tired of all these soldiers here
No one speaks English, and everything's broken, and my Stacys are soaking wet
To go waltzing Mathilda, waltzing Mathilda,
You'll go waltzing Mathilda with me
Now the dogs are barking and the taxi cab's parking
A lot they can do for me
I begged you to stab me, you tore my shirt open,
And I'm down on my knees tonight
Old Bushmill's I staggered, you'd bury the dagger
In your silhouette window light go
To go waltzing Mathilda, waltzing Mathilda,
You'll go waltzing Mathilda with me
Now I lost my Saint Christopher now that I've kissed her
And the one-armed bandit knows
And the maverick Chinamen, and the cold-blooded signs,
And the girls down by the strip-tease shows, go
Waltzing Mathilda, waltzing Mathilda,
You'll go waltzing Mathilda with me
No, I don't want your sympathy, the fugitives say
That the streets aren't for dreaming now
And manslaughter dragnets and the ghosts that sell memories,
They want a piece of the action anyhow
Go waltzing Mathilda, waltzing Mathilda,
You'll go waltzing Mathilda with me
And you can ask any sailor, and the keys from the jailor,
And the old men in wheelchairs know
And Mathilda's the defendant, she killed about a hundred,
And she follows wherever you may go
Waltzing Mathilda, waltzing Mathilda,
You'll go waltzing Mathilda with me
And it's a battered old suitcase to a hotel someplace,
And a wound that will never heal
No prima donna, the perfume is on an
Old shirt that is stained with blood and whiskey
And goodnight to the street sweepers, the night watchmen flame keepers
And goodnight to Mathilda, too
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this may be totally unrelated and perhaps even (gosh!) considered spam but my above use of the word consumate in relation to grief led me down a tangential path causing me to recall this poem by Bukowski. its another one of my favorite things.
especially the last line. if I could just one line as well as that in my life I could die a happy man.
Consummation Of Grief
Charles Bukowski
I even hear the mountains
the way they laugh
up and down their blue sides
and down in the water
the fish cry
and the water
is their tears.
I listen to the water
on nights I drink away
and the sadness becomes so great
I hear it in my clock
it becomes knobs upon my dresser
it becomes paper on the floor
it becomes a shoehorn
a laundry ticket
it becomes
cigarette smoke
climbing a chapel of dark vines. . .
it matters little
very little love is not so bad
or very little life
what counts
is waiting on walls
I was born for this
I was born to hustle roses down the avenues of the dead.
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hehe.... shawn, I seem to recall that a long time ago (on a website far far away) we were discussing this... or...uh... something like that!
by far, the Cale version is better. unfortunately for me, I lost my version of it and can not seem to find the basquiat soundtrack on which John Cale's version appears.
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if you would like more shawn, do be in touch in pm... I dont know if I can say that I have all of his albums but I do have many many.
actually, all the lyrics I do post here (not just Waits) will be from songs off of albums that I own. so again, the invitation to anyone wanting to PM me for info is extended again.
btw shawn: here is probably (debated in my own head) my favorite tom waits song especially the line about "I yealled and I cursed, if I stay here I'll rust and Im stuck like a shipwreck out in the dust..."
Whistle Down the Wind
(Tom Waits)
I've grown up here now
All of my life
But I dreamed
Someday I'd go
Where blue eyed girls
And red guitars and
Naked rivers flow
I'm not all I thought I'd be
I always stayed around
I've been as far as Mercy and Grand
Frozen to the ground
I can't stay here and I'm scared to leave
(Just kiss me once and then)
I'll go to hell
I might as well
Be whistlin' down the wind
The bus at the corner
The clock's on the wall
Broken windmill
There's no wind at all
I've yelled and I've cursed
If I stay here I'll rust
I'm stuck like a shipwreck
Out here in the dust
Sky is red
And the world's on fire
And the corn is taller than me
The dog is tied
To a wagon of rain
And the road is as wet as the sea
And sometimes the music from a dance
Will carry across the plains
And the places that I'm dreaming of
Do they dream only of me?
There are places where they never sleep
And the circus never ends
So I will take the Marley Bone Coach
And whistle down the wind.
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this song here reminds me.... well, I used to do a little pool sharking myself. and when I was hot on the table I would sing this song to myself all the time. especially the line about "it's hard to win when you always lose..."
Fumblin' With the Blues
Friday left me fumblin' with the blues
And it's hard to win when you always lose
Because the nightspots spend your spirit
Beat your head against the wall
Two dead ends and you've still got to choose
You know the bartenders
They all know my name
And they catch me when I'm pulling up lame
And I'm a pool-shooting-shimmy-shyster shaking my head
When I should be living clean instead
You know the ladies I've been seeing off and on
Well they spend your love and then they're gone
You can't be lovin' someone who is savage and cruel
Take your love and then they leave on out of town
No they do
Well now fallin' in love is such a breeze
But its standin' up that's so hard for me
I wanna squeeze you but I'm scared to death I'd break your back
You know your perfume
Well it won't let me be
You know the bartenders all know my name
And they catch me when I'm pulling up lame
And I'm a pool-shooting-shimmy-shyster shaking my head
When I should be living clean instead
Come on baby
Let your love light shine
Gotta bury me inside of your fire
Because your eyes are 'nough to blind me
You're like a-looking at the sun
You gotta whisper tell me I'm the one
Come on and whisper tell me I'm the one
Gotta whisper tell me I'm the one
Come on and whisper tell me I'm the one
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consumnate misery (well close) at least in my opinion. and if youve heard the song, you might agree too
Woe
The ribbon round your neck
aganist your skin that's pale as bone
It is my favorite thing you've worn
The band is playing our song
And we wan't go home, 'til morn
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btw, if anyone is interested in any of the lyrics I post here (or anywhere else) PLEASE feel free to pm me for album info and....ummm..... stuff. know what Im saying?
All The World Is Green
I fell into the ocean
When you became my wife
I risked it all aganist the sea
To have a better life
Marie you're the wild blue sky
And men do foolish things
You turn kings into beggars
And beggars into kings
Pretend that you owe me nothing
And all the world is green
We can bring back the old days again
And all the world is green
The face forgives the mirror
The worm forgives the plow
The questions begs the answer
Can you forgive me somehow
Maybe when our story's over
We'll go where it's always spring
The band is playing our song again
And all the world is green
Pretend that you owe me nothing
And all the world is green
We can bring back the old days again
And all the world is green
The moon is yellow silver
Oh the things that summer brings
It's a love you'd kill for
And all the world is green
He is balancing a diamond
On a blade of grass
The dew will settle on our grave(s)
When all the world is green
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tom waits is one of my favorite artists of all time without any doubt. so umma, you have inspired me! I think I will be posting lyrics to several of my favorite songs by him momentarily.
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guess I got my two cents in a little too late in the debate! :P
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Okay!! By popular demand I am loading up the suburban and will gather you guys up. Then we will do a community drive-by on his ass that will be on the front page of the New York Times! :good job:
count me in redneck! I figure I shoot better than at least half the police out there.... I know that some of the times I been at the range and there were some police about they all sure looked at me with a little fear in their eyes after seeing my target perfed over and over at k5.
addendum: I am by no means implying or advocating firing upon an officer.... just this one kentucky one!
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when I was having an audio system installed in my car I had only two major requirements. one was that I had an equalizer so as to be able to easily adjust the level of bass depending on the genre of music.
and the other was that the speakers in the car itself must be of high enough quality to crisply play the high notes found in this song. believe it or not, I blew out something like 3 sets of speakers before finding one that gave me what I wanted.
great song! and a great post shawn, thanks for the memories.
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for myself, Id never want a woman I was with to have an abortion. BUT (big but) ultimately it is the woman's choice in my opinion. believing anything else relegates us all to a male biased chauvinistic world in which our great and glorious leader can decree what a woman is allowed to do with her uterus. to that, I must call bull shit.
Im thinking of pregnant young teens (and sometimes preteens) that I have met in free clinics. many of them did not even know what a condoms purpose was. or what an std was. what would come of the child born to such an undereducated child who had basically no chance herself? it is only fair that the mother (and her parents) have both of the above as well as abortion explained to them in detail and then presented with options.
Im thinking of girls I have known who were raped and one who got pregnant as a result. she was herself against abortion but could not imagine raising a child concieved in such a manner especially while still a teen herself. so I went to the planned parenthood with her and held her hand.
Im wondering, ken, if you've ever met anyone who was fucked at birth or condemned to a pitiful existence devoid of everything but ignorance and decay finalized in death at the ripe old age of 18. you talk of fucking idiots who dont contribute anything to humanity but there are those who never had a chance- regardless of what you might think or of whatever argument revolving around self determination that you might make.
extenuating circumstances are the exception to every rule.
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if this is true then this guy deserves a hell of a lot more than just a year in prison which this article says is the maximum jail term if he is convicted. although.... being that he is apparently a pervert with pedophilic tendencies on top of a cop... well, a year in the right prison would probably be more than enough.
and he has been placed on paid suspension. wtf is that?
you're so f-ing right daic. disgusting individual, disgusting system.
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Anyway back to Wall... if u take the character Pink and his childhood to adolesence (sp) years... it majorly reflects Roger's childhood... and the later half of the album had, I agree some glimses of Syd's character... but it again reflected majorly that alienation been the band and the audience that Roger felt was existing during all those years of touring!
I was gonna write almost this same exact thing here but then decided to read through the whole thread and found this.
the early life of Pink in The Wall (along with basically the entire album The Final Cut and so much more Im sure) is definetely based on much of Waters childhood- the most poignant scene that comes instantly to my mind is the one in which Pink is in a garden- with his mother I believe- while shots of a bomb falling on his father are spliced in. This is surely a cinemazation of events in Waters' childhood as his father died in much the same way during WWII.
and I have no proof of it but I also always believed that the mental and emotional deterioration of Pink was largely inspired by the madcap's (barrett that is, not beatking's!) own destructive spiral before and probably after his being made to leave the band.
of course, Pink probably could also probably be viewed in a more symbolical context as well in that the character could be a kind of reverse archetype- a combination of the worst- and the best perhaps- traits in each of the band members.
in truth though, in my opinion, everything Ive said is neither here nor there and largely done because it just feels good to actually write something again. Im more of the opinion that there's really just a lil bit of Pink in all of us.
Reggae That is Not Bob Marley
in Reggae / Ska
Posted · Edited by gorphon
Old thread but I haven't been here in...forever... so I figured what the heck.
Joe Higgs is worth checking out. He taught Bob Marley how to play guitar and had his hand in a great many of the best reggae albums. An unsung superstar of the genre.
I'm liking Groundation lately. They've been described as avant garde reggae, the entire album telling a story. The one that I have, Hebron Gate, kind of reminds me of The Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed.
The Congos and The Mighty Diamonds are kings in their own right. Toots and the Maytals, The Upsetter... Alton Ellis was king of the mountain in Jamaica until Bob came along.
On the more modern world stage, there is Lucky Dube from south africa, martin jondo from germany, Svenska Akademin from I don't know! Buju Banton's 'til Shiloh stands amongst the best reggae albums of the 90s, imo and theres about 2 dozen Marley's all with albums worth a listen.
yeah, I like reggae. Roots reggae, mostly.
Someone mentioned political reggae... hard to top Linton Kwesi Johnson there, the ORIGINAL don gorgon.