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May 26, 1948 Stevie Nicks was born. The Fleetwood Mac story is an episodic saga that spans more than 30 years. It is the saga of a British blues band formed in 1967 that became a California-based pop group in the mid-Seventies. In between came a period where Fleetwood Mac shuffled personnel and experimented with styles, all the while releasing solid albums that found a loyal core audience. Despite all the changes, two members have remained constant over the years: drummer Mick Fleetwood and bassist John McVie, whose surnames provided the group name Fleetwood Mac. Though most rock fans are familiar with the lineup that includes Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks-by far the longest-running edition of the band, responsible for the classic albums Fleetwood Mac and Rumours-the group possesses a rich and storied history that predates those epics. Earlier Fleetwood Mac lineups included guitarists Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer, Danny Kirwan and Bob Welch. if you're interested in the band biography read it here: http://www.rockhall.com/hof/inductee.asp?id=103

Marine Cpl. Jason L. Dunham Marine Cpl. Jason L. Dunham, 22, of Scio, N.Y.; assigned to 3rd Battalion, 7th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force, at Twentynine Palms, Calif.; killed in action April 22 in Anbar province, Iraq. Associated Press SCIO, N.Y. — Mourners Saturday filled one of Cpl. Jason Dunham’s favorite places — his high school gym — for the funeral of the Marine, who died in Iraq after using his own body to shield his men from an attacker’s grenade. The gym, packed with more than 1,500 people, is the largest gathering space in the upstate New York town of Scio, where Dunham grew up. His casket rested beneath a basketball hoop. Dunham, 22, died from wounds he sustained April 14 in Iraq. A report from the Marine Corps said Dunham was commanding a check point near Karbala when a man got out of a car and tried to flee. Dunham tackled the man, who then pulled a pin from a hand grenade. Dunham dove onto the grenade before it exploded, the Marines reported. Two other Marines were injured. Dunham, with K Company, 3rd Battalion, 7th Marines, was remembered in Iraq on Thursday at a service attended by more than 500 Marines, sailors and soldiers, the Marines reported. Dunham “never judged anyone and he never judged the people over there,” friend Justin Lambert said at Saturday’s funeral. “He was just doing his job. He’s going to be missed.” As a long procession of cars and walkers accompanied the casket to the nearby cemetery, Scio residents sat on their porches and children lined the sidewalk. An American flag was draped above the highway. Dunham’s parents, carrying the tri-folded flag that had draped their eldest son’s coffin, and their three younger children were escorted by the Marines to an awaiting car. “The Marine Corps have really showed us how much this means to them,” said Cpl. Dunham’s father, Dan. “They’ve been very good to us.” http://www.militarycity.com/valor/2860493.html

you crack me up jip :rotfl:

Avril Lavigne has covered Bob Dylan's "Knocking on Heaven's Door" for inclusion on Unity, the official album for the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens, Greece. The set, which also features Destiny's Child, Sting, Lenny Kravitz, Macy Gray, Public Enemy, Alice Cooper and Xzibit, will be released August 10th. The majority of the songs on Unity feature peace and harmony as a theme, and most of the tracks are collaborations. Some groupings, like Xzibit and Alice Cooper's "Stand," and Moby and Public Enemy's "MKLFKWR" are a bit peculiar, while others, like Sting and Mariza's "A Thousand Years," try to create a cross-cultural palette, as the artists on the record represent fifteen different nations. Read the article here along with the track listing: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story?id=...sion=6.0.12.857

Money & Business By Lou Dobbs The road map to nowhere The road map to peace for Israelis and Palestinians is shredded, and the avowed aim of the Bush administration to introduce democracy in Iraq is now clearly secondary to establishing security and stability. America's Middle East strategy is in tatters. The cost of our miscalculation in the Middle East is soaring. Almost 800 American soldiers have died since the Iraq conflict began. Israeli-Palestinian violence is escalating. The United States has imposed economic sanctions on Syria. And the administration has not seen fit to publicly offer a statement of purpose, strategy, or doctrine that our allies and enemies alike can understand to represent our interests and our direction in foreign policy. We can only hope that the administration has a solid understanding of our interests in the Middle East and is consciously pursuing a policy of ambiguity that is as confounding to our enemies as it is frustrating to the rest of us. But there's nothing ambiguous about our challenges in the region. In Iraq, there's no purpose in lamenting the waste of time, treasure, and lives that has yielded so little over the past year in the way of progress there. On Capitol Hill this month, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Richard Myers told senators that while there is no way the United States can lose militari-ly in Iraq, there's also "no way to militarily win." General Myers's sobering words were given only modest coverage by the national media. Powerless. All Americans should be deeply concerned that the top general of the U.S. military, with the most advanced technological weaponry in the world, the best-trained Army, and vast superiority in missile and air power, cannot assure military victory in Iraq. If our military leadership, after the brilliantly executed invasion of Iraq and seizure of Baghdad, is incapable of achieving victory more than a year later, it's time to assess the quality of that leadership, its 21st-century strategy and tactics, and its doctrines of warfare. And we must resolve large questions of foreign policy: Are the administration's geopolitical goals and policies consonant with our national interest in the region? Is our use of military power in pursuit of those goals realistic? These issues are certainly more deserving of congressional hearings than the actions of a few soldiers at Abu Ghraib. General Myers has ruled out the military option for victory in Iraq, and our soldiers at Abu Ghraib may well have ruled out the hearts-and-minds option. It appears we're down to precious few options for victory. read the article here: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/040531/...ion/31dobbs.htm

"you can leave your hat on" method ;)

kinda funky, blues, pretty rounded, susan tedeschi sang with them, they backed up govt. mule

I read where they had to declare a state of emergency in georgia to get enough security in place for the G8 summit, life is definitely not the same.

Major terror attack possible this summer From Kelli Arena CNN Washington Bureau Tuesday, May 25, 2004 Posted: 10:08 PM EDT (0208 GMT) (CNN) -- Several U.S. officials said Tuesday that intelligence indicates there is increasing concern about the possibility of a major terrorist attack on U.S. soil, perhaps as early as this summer. The attack might take place before the November presidential election in an attempt to affect the outcome, the officials said. Although there is no specific target, time or date for the possible attack, the information is the culmination of intelligence that has been known and gathered over time -- and it is the assessment that is new, the sources said. The FBI is likely to issue alerts for several individuals the bureau would like to locate in the coming days, two counterterrorism sources told CNN. read the article here: http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/05/25/terror.threat/index.html

nice, well there's a poll to rate us, I think you should take it :P

I don't think this is wise, I agree cameras can affect attorneys' performances and I think jury deliberation should be private. any comments? Lights, camera .... deliberations Ohio murder trial begins and TV will be there from start to finish Tuesday, May 25, 2004 Posted: 8:19 AM EDT (1219 GMT) CLEVELAND, Ohio (AP) -- A trial for a man charged with murder began Monday with television cameras ready to record everything, including jury deliberations in the death penalty case, as part of a courtroom documentary. Under rules approved by the Ohio state court system, the unlimited TV filming for the trial of Mark Ducic was allowed only with the approval of trial attorneys, the judge and jurors. Ducic, 53, could face the death penalty if convicted of killing Barbara Davis, 41, in 2001, and Donald Ehrke, 44, in 2003. Their deaths had been blamed on accidental drug overdoses, but the cases were reopened after authorities said Ducic bragged about the slayings. read the article here: http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/25/tv.murde...l.ap/index.html

on this scale I'd have to say things haven't progressed. Originally published in the 1967 Farmers’ Almanac How Children Should Act With Their Parents In Public • Always call them “Mother” and “Father,”or “Dad.” • Always introduce people to your mother. No matter how important the other person is, begin: “Mother, I’d like you to know…” • When your parents introduce you to their friends, make them proud. Stand up for an introduction, and acknowledge it with the friend’s name: “How do you do, Mrs. Carter.” Don’t sit down, while either your mother or Mrs. Carter is still standing. • If your parents’ friends ask questions, even though they seem a little foolish, answer. Never say, “I dunno” or just giggle. Admittedly, “You’ve grown so, haven’t you?” is silly; but it becomes sensible conversation if you answer, “Yes, I’m nearly two inches taller than I was last year.” • If your dad tells a story involving you and gets some of the facts wrong; let it go. Setting him straight in front of an audience just sounds quarrelsome and childish. • Let your mother precede you into a train or bus, or down a theater aisle. In these places, walk ahead of your father. • Treat your mother like a lady and your father like a gentleman, and you can’t help impressing the world with your own charm and poise. Times Have Certainly Changed! |http://www.farmersalmanac.com/yesteryear/yesteryear.html

my favorite zappa album, I didn't have many at the time, I've since collected more albums of his that demonstrate his great guitar playing and and talented band, such as "the best band you never heard in your life" and "shut up n play your guitar" which was zappa's answer to critics that his albums were too much talk and not enough musicianship. I can still remember listening to "filmore east 1971" as a teenager, it was sort of a cult album, we played it when parents weren't around, closeted in our rooms, lol anyways, john lennon used the cover for one of his inside covers on "Sometime in New York City". Below a review and the tracks from "Filmore east 1971" by William Ruhlmann Frank Zappa was one of the most accomplished composers of the rock era; his music combines an understanding of and appreciation for such contemporary classical figures as Stravinsky, Stockhausen, and Varese with an affection for late-'50s doo wop rock & roll and a facility for the guitar-heavy rock that dominated pop in the '70s. But Zappa was also a satirist whose reserves of scorn seemed bottomless and whose wicked sense of humor and absurdity have delighted his numerous fans, even when his lyrics crossed over the broadest bounds of taste. Finally, Zappa was perhaps the most prolific record-maker of his time, turning out massive amounts of music on his own Barking Pumpkin label and through distribution deals with Rykodisc and Rhino after long, unhappy associations with industry giants like Warner Brothers and the now-defunct MGM. Zappa became interested in music early and pursued his studies in school, up through a six-month stint at Chaffey College in Alta Loma, CA. He scored a couple of low-budget films and used the money to buy a low-budget recording studio. In 1964, he joined a local band called The Soul Giants, which, over the course of the next two years, evolved into The Mothers, who played songs written by Zappa. The band was signed to the Verve division of MGM by producer Tom Wilson in 1966 and recorded its first album, a two-LP set called Freak Out!, which introduced Zappa's interests in both serious music and pop as well as his scathing wit. (Verve insisted on adding "of Invention" to the band's name.) Subsequent albums extended the musical and lyrical themes of the debut, and they came frequently. Three albums, for example, hit the charts in 1968: We're Only in It for the Money, a Mothers album that made fun of hippies and Sgt. Pepper; Lumpy Gravy, a Zappa solo album recorded with an orchestra; and Cruising with Ruben & the Jets, on which The Mothers played neo-doo wop. Toward the end of the '60s, Zappa expanded The Mothers lineup, turning more toward instrumental jazz-rock, much of which displayed his technically accomplished guitar playing. But by the end of the decade, he had broken up the band. In 1970, however, Zappa reassembled a new edition of The Mothers, featuring former Turtles lead singers Mark Volman and Howard Kaylan as frontmen. The lineup moved the group more in the direction of X-rated comedy, notably on the album Fillmore East June 1971, but it was short-lived: during a performance at the Rainbow Theatre in London, Zappa was pushed from the stage by a demented fan and seriously injured. While he recovered, Zappa released several albums, then he re-formed The Mothers with himself as lead singer and made pop/rock albums, such as Over-nite Sensation, which were among his best-selling records ever. By the end of the '70s, Zappa was recording on his own labels, distributed in some cases by the majors, and he had attracted a consistent cult following for both his humor and his complex music. (Zappa's band, in fact, became a training ground for high-quality rock musicians, much as Miles Davis's was for jazz players.) In the '80s, Zappa gained the rights to his old albums and began to reissue them, at first on his own and then through the pioneering Rykodisc CD label. He wrote his autobiography and embarked on a world tour in 1988. That was the end of his live performing, except for such isolated appearances as one in Czechoslovakia at the invitation of its post-Communist president, Zappa fan Vaclav Havel. In late 1991, it was confirmed that Zappa was seriously ill with cancer. Nevertheless, his schedule of album releases continued to be rapid. Zappa died in December of 1993, with a number of posthumous releases to follow. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&u...l=Byx1uak4k5m3k 1. Little House I Used to Live In performed by Frank Zappa & the Mothers - 4:41 2. The Mud Shark performed by Frank Zappa & the Mothers - 5:22 3. 3. What 3. Kind of Girl Do You Think We Are? performed by Frank Zappa & the Mothers 4. Bwana Dik performed by Frank Zappa & the Mothers - 2:21 5. 5. Latex Solar 5. Beef performed by Frank Zappa & the Mothers - 2:38 6. Willie the Pimp, Pt. 1 performed by Frank Zappa & the Mothers - 4:03 7. Do You Like My New Car? performed by Frank Zappa & the Mothers - 8. Happy Together performed by Frank Zappa & the Mothers - 2:57 9. Lonesome Electric Turkey performed by Frank Zappa & the Mothers - 2:32 10. Peaches en Regalia performed by Frank Zappa & the Mothers - 3:22 11. Tears Began to Fall performed by Frank Zappa & the Mothers - 2:45 http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&u...l=Axfivadskv8wn]

Despite losses around the world, al Qaeda has more than 18,000 potential terrorists, and its ranks are growing because of the conflict in Iraq, a leading think tank warned Tuesday. Seems like the war in Iraq is having the opposite affect from what the president intended, not that it wasn't predictable.

pretty cool, I checked out the links on the PcTechTalk site, that's a favorite I've had saved for awhile to check for fixes and information, BeatKing is the only music link they have posted, I just thought that was noteworthy, someone here from PcTech?

Lindows Wins a Big One in Windows Trademark Suit By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols May 24, 2004 The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday denied Microsoft's appeal that the term "windows" be considered only as it is understood by the public today—not as it was when the company's Windows was introduced in 1985—as the company's trademark litigation against Lindows continues. The case has been sent back for trial to Judge John Coughenour of the U.S. District Court in Seattle, who issued the order that Microsoft Corp. was appealing. read the article here: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1599396,00.asp

Tom Clancy wrestles with Iraq war New book co-written with war critic Gen. Anthony Zinni Tuesday, May 25, 2004 Posted: 2:03 PM EDT (1803 GMT) NEW YORK (AP) -- A brand name author with many admirers in the military criticized the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, citing it as proof that "good men make mistakes." That same writer said he almost "came to blows" with a leading war supporter, former Pentagon adviser Richard Perle. The author is Tom Clancy. The hawkish master of such million-selling thrillers as "Patriot Games" and "The Hunt for Red October" now finds himself adding to the criticism of the Iraq war, and not only through his own comments. read the article here: http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/books/05/2...l.ap/index.html

The forthcoming album from David Crosby and Graham Nash will be a two-CD set that simply will be called Crosby-Nash. The collection is expected to feature 20 tracks and tentatively is scheduled for an Aug. 10 release. In addition to songs written individually by Nash and Crosby, the album reportedly will include five tunes written or co-written by Crosby's son, James Raymond. 1. LAY ME DOWN - Raymond 2. PUPPETEER - Raymond 3. THROUGH HERE QUITE OFTEN - Crosby and Parks 4. GRACE - Raymond 5. JESUS OF RIO - Nash and Pevar 6. I SURRENDER – Marc Cohen 7. LUCK DRAGON - Crosby and Raymond 8. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN - Nash 9. HALF YOUR ANGELS - Nash 10. THEY WANT IT ALL - Crosby 11. HOW DOES IT SHINE? - Crosby 1. DON'T DIG HERE - Raymond, Nash and R. Kunkel 2. MILKY WAY TONIGHT - Nash 3. CHARLIE - Crosby and Parks 4. PENGUIN IN A PALM-TREE - Nash 4. MICHAEL (HEDGES HERE) - Nash 5. SAMURAI - Crosby 7. SHINING ON YOUR DREAMS - Nash and R. Kunkel 8. LIVE ON (THE WALL) - Nash, Steve Plunkett, Patrick Flannery and Spencer Proffer 9. MY COUNTRY 'TIS OF THEE - Traditional http://www.y-103.com/ http://www.4waysite.com/news_rumors/2004/2004news.htm

what i meant was............I don't mind copying and putting the link but I think it's too much for me to take their photos too, I feel like I'm robbing their format also.

seems to me I read where senate democrats are just using this to pressure the republican administration, insinuating they are less likely to escalate a war if their own children would be drafted, the concensus was the middle class and poor are fighting the war.

Spitzer seeks $100M from Grasso N.Y. attorney general announces sweeping lawsuit seeking return of some of $187M pay package. May 24, 2004: 5:38 PM EDT By Krysten Crawford, CNN/Money staff writer NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer filed a lawsuit against former New York Stock Exchange Chairman Richard Grasso and the exchange Monday, seeking the return of some of Grasso's $187 million pay package. The civil lawsuit, which also names former NYSE director Kenneth Langone, came after a four-month probe by Spitzer's office determined that the board of the NYSE was misled about parts of Grasso's pay. New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer filed a lawsuit against former NYSE chairman Richard Grasso seeking a portion of Grasso's compensation package. "You can't pay the head of a not-for-profit that much money," Spitzer said at an afternoon news conference. "The amount paid, close to $200 million, was simply not reasonable." Spitzer said the lawsuit, filed in state court in New York, would seek at least $100 million back from Grasso and $18 million back from Langone, though the amounts being sought have not been finalized. Langone was the chair of the Big Board's compensation committee when Grasso's pay was approved. read the article here: http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/24/markets/sp...rasso/index.htm

hmmmmm, unbelievable For November, Let Us Pray For You-Know-Who Inside the presidential prayer team By NATHAN THORNBURGH Monday, May. 24, 2004 The radio ad's announcer reads a list of famous Americans who gave their lives to Christ — from founding father John Jay to former Harlem Globetrotter Meadowlark Lemon — as fifes trill and drums roll in the background. "You too can be an American inspiration," the narrator concludes, "by joining the Presidential Prayer Team!" The ad, running on 1,165 radio stations around the country, doesn't mention President Bush. But it comes from a group that could play a major role in rallying the President's Christian conservative base to vote in this year's election. Founded in the wake of 9/11 with backing from Arizona Diamondbacks owner Jerry Colangelo, among others, the Presidential Prayer Team draws inspiration from the biblical injunction to "pray for Kings, and all those that are in authority." Its website, PresidentialPrayerTeam .org, claims to have 3 million Americans on bended knee for the President who famously named Jesus as his favorite philosopher. The nonprofit group doesn't support candidates and thus isn't subject to campaign-spending limits. But it is about to launch Pray the Vote, a national initiative that will feature half-hour radio ads, Dean-style meet-ups (called prayer parties) and a nationwide prayer rally on the eve of the election. "We're really just calling for God's will to be done in this election," says spokeswoman Meagan Gillan. "We want people to vote their values." With an annual budget of $1.5 million, the Prayer Team says it will continue past November, even if God's plan includes a President John Kerry. "If that's the case," says Gillan, "we'll just have to pray even harder." http://www.time.com/time/election2004/arti...,641136,00.html

same here, I can't upload an mp3 or a bitmap, I get a message that I can not load that kind of file.

I see the pics fine with IE, but I think it's a little much to take the photo along with the link.

well I still think there's nothing like seeing a grp or artist you enjoy "live". I won't pay those prices either though, some grps don't charge like that, I saw the allman brothers last yr for just $20, great seats too, it's about 40-60 this yr but that's ok with me, I know I'm seeing a unique performance with impromptu jams. beyond me who would pay that much to see madonna or britney spears.