[Redneck4sure]

:fight:

[DudeAsInCool]

:taskmaster:

[Redneck4sure]

When I posted earlier I was figuring you would respond within 2 minutes. It took you 23. I was afraid something had happened to you.


But just for the record, I agree that they need to count the votes. It is a little disconcerting for them to find that many votes this long after the election. I don't see how they can misplace that many votes. They need to put some of these suckers in jail if they can prove fraud. If they can't prove fraud.......then they need to fire their ass for incompetence.

[DudeAsInCool]

Amen...

[method77]

I find really strange that the last 2 elections were considered unreliable but nothing happened. The goverment is in place and the people don't do anything about it except make some "Jesusland" jokes and make anti-Bush pictures.
Look what happened in Ukraine. The result was suspicious, the people fought and now they won a new election yet the US and EU call their current goverment non-democratic.
You not only call your country democratic. You have to prove it too.

[Kooperman]

method77, on Dec 17 2004, 05:37 AM, said:

I find really strange that the last 2 elections were considered unreliable but nothing happened. The goverment is in place and the people don't do anything about it except make some "Jesusland" jokes and make anti-Bush pictures.
Look what happened in Ukraine. The result was suspicious, the people fought and now they won a new election yet the US and EU call their current goverment non-democratic.
You not only call your country democratic. You have to prove it too.

When the Republicans are in charge of every avenue of protest and action that the Democrats can legally turn to looking for justice, then nothing will happen to change the trend of corruption. The gullible and trusting American public has allowed a political monopoly to do anything they want. Until they vote out corrupt and incompetent office holders from both parties, the US will continue this spiral into medioctity that George Bush has initiated.

[slum_goddess]

method, what kooperman so eloquently said above. i find it strange that the fucking goddamn mainstream US media paid more attention to the election in the Ukraine than they did to our own, but hey...i'm still naive. i also find it strange that people aren't wild in the streets (in the states), like i'd want to.

[Redneck4sure]

Kooperman, on Dec 17 2004, 08:44 AM, said:

US will continue this spiral into medioctity that George Bush has initiated.

Change "into" to "out of" and you will be correct.




US will continue this spiral out of mediocrity that George Bush has initiated.

[slum_goddess]

i love it when you're all deluded and shit.

[DudeAsInCool]

FBI email embroils Bush in jail abuse
Correspondents in Washington
December 23, 2004

THE White House says it expects new documented accounts of torture at Guantanamo Bay to be "fully investigated", but has denied claims George W. Bush personally approved the use of abusive methods against detainees at the US prison camp.

Responding to documents obtained by the leading US civil liberties group, White house spokesman Scott McClellan said any allegations of torture had to be taken seriously.

"People need to be held accountable and brought to justice if they're involved in wrongdoing," he said.

"Preventive measures and corrective measures must be put in place to prevent it from happening again."

He rejected claims the US President had issued an order allowing inhuman interrogation methods against detainees in Iraq and elsewhere, saying there was "no executive order relating to interrogation techniques. When it comes to military detainees and interrogation methods, those are determinations made by the US Department of Defence".











But the American Civil Liberties Union released copies of a two-page FBI email dated May 22 that refers repeatedly to an executive order signed by Mr Bush which, according to the ACLU statement, "states the President directly authorised interrogation techniques including sleep deprivation, stress positions, the use of military dogs, and sensory deprivation through the use of hoods".

The FBI email was sent to a number of senior FBI officials from "On Scene Commander -- Baghdad". It states that the bureau had prohibited its agents from employing the techniques Mr Bush had authorised.

Other documents made public by the ACLU under freedom of information legislation include:


A heavily edited "Urgent Report" in June addressed to FBI director Robert Mueller, mentioning that an FBI agent "observed numerous physical abuse incidents of Iraqi civilian detainees", including "strangulation, beatings, and placement of lit cigarettes into the detainees' ear openings".

The document states that "(blanked out) was providing this account to the FBI based on his knowledge that (blanked out) were engaged in a cover-up of these abuses".


An August 2 email from another FBI agent who witnessed Guantanamo detainees under interrogation shackled hand and foot in a fetal position on the floor for 18 to 24 hours at a time, and most had "urinated or defecated" on themselves.

One detainee was held in an unventilated room at a temperature "probably well over 100 degrees (38C)".

"The detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him. He had apparently been literally pulling his own hair out throughout the night," the agent wrote.


A July 30 FBI agent's account of an interrogation at Guantanamo "apparently conducted by Defence Department personnel -- in which a detainee was wrapped in an Israeli flag and bombarded with loud music and strobe lights".


Suggestions two US army officers were involved in the deaths of at least two detainees in Iraq.

AFP

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/commo...55E2703,00.html

[Kooperman]

Nothing sticks to the teflon President....

[method77]

Kooperman, on Dec 23 2004, 02:43 AM, said:

Nothing sticks to the teflon President....

I agree with Koop.

After reading all these articles about him and his voters, the only thing that would make him not wanted is if someone claimed he is gay.

I am not kidding

[DudeAsInCool]

If the above is true, he's in for major problems

[method77]

Somewhere else, yes. In the US, no.


Don't be angry about my views against your country Dude. You know what I mean.

You should hear me talk about our previous goverment lol

[DudeAsInCool]

method77, on Dec 22 2004, 06:08 PM, said:

Don't be angry about my views against your country Dude. You know what I mean.

I'm with you :good job: