[Redneck4sure]

Okay. Come over and see if you can make me feel like a woman.

[slum_goddess]

Amber, on Nov 28 2004, 03:04 PM, said:

Now why on Earth would I ever want to make a man feel like a man :P

[Kooperman]

Former teacher to use insanity plea against charges of sex with student

an ABC Action News report 11/30/04 - updated 6:09 p.m.

TAMPA - When a young Hillsborough County teacher was accused this summer of having a sexual affair with a 14-year-old student, many people's first reaction to the notorious case was, 'She's crazy.' Tuesday, Debra Lafave's attorney announced that his client would indeed be using an insanity defense.

Lafave, 24, is facing charges of lewd and lascivious behavior, stemming from accusations that the former Greco Middle School teacher had sex with the student both at school and in a car driven by the student's cousin in Ocala.

The case has garnered international attention, but since turning herself in to police in June, Lafave has kept a low profile. She was ordered to appear at Tuesday's pre-trial hearing, but did not say anything.

In her place, attorney John Fitzgibbons asked the court for a delay because of a shift in his defense tactics.

"To give the court a sense of the case, I anticipate that in the near future, I will be filing a notice of insanity defense. There is some work being done by a doctor…we have accumulated medical records," he told the judge.

Lafave's trial was originally scheduled for December 6. Prosecutors had been forewarned of the new defense tactic, but still said it should push the trial back "a couple months," into next spring.

According to prosecutor Mike Sinacore, the burden is on the defense to prove insanity by meeting two standards.

"The person suffered from mental illness at the time of the offense, and the second prong is to prove that either they did not know what they were doing, or that they did know what they were doing but did not know that it was wrong," he explained.

Given that, it was not clear from either Fitzgibbons' comments or court documents what the reasoning behind the new defense was.



John Fitzgibbons discusses the case as Lafave and her family look on.
"Debbie has some profound emotional issues that are not her fault. I think once anyone reads what the doctors have to say, they will understand a lot more about what happened here," Fitzgibbons said outside court, as Lafave stood silently next to him.

That reasoning may become more clear as the prosecution releases evidence in the case later this week. That is expected to include phone conversations between Lafave and the teen, and store surveillance photos showing them shopping together.

One factor the defense might use to invoke an insanity defense is the recent trauma Lafave's family has been through. Her pregnant sister was killed in a high-profile drunk driving accident three years ago, and Lafave was in court for that trial alongside the rest of her family, who also turned out for Tuesday's hearing.

Her soon-to-be former husband, Owen Lafave, was not there, however. Owen filed for divorce in August and told Action News previously that the case has been like "living a nightmare" for him.

Debbie Lafave also faces similar charges in Marion County.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/stories/2004/...130lafave.shtml

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[Wolfie]

For an insane person she looks pretty cute.



PS. Why don't we have a "I'd hit that" smilie?

[Amber]

Redneck4sure, on Nov 28 2004, 10:41 AM, said:

Okay. Come over and see if you can make me feel like a woman.

Ohhhh hun, but that would takes years to make you feel like a real woman. ;) But...I'll send you a pair of Chic Jeans and you can start without me

[Shawn]

Wolfie, on Dec 1 2004, 12:23 AM, said:

For an insane person she looks pretty cute.



PS. Why don't we have a "I'd hit that" smilie?

Maybe we should get one.... :I'd hit it:

[Redneck4sure]

Amber, on Dec 1 2004, 07:49 AM, said:

you can start without me

My wife tells me that all the time.

[DudeAsInCool]

This isnt teacher related, but it does show the lengths some parents will go to getir todlers a future education


LOS ANGELES Dec 1, 2004 — A man pleaded guilty to trying to extort $180,000 from a supermarket chain by threatening to put poisoned baby food on store shelves.

Police said David Ian Dickinson, 43, told them he planned to use the money to pay for his 5-month-old son's college education.

http://abcnews.go.co...Story?id=295229

[DudeAsInCool]

Maybe the teachers are nuts because they are forced to teach junk like this!

Some Abstinence Programs Mislead Teens, Report Says



By Ceci Connolly
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, December 2, 2004; Page A01

Many American youngsters participating in federally funded abstinence-only programs have been taught over the past three years that abortion can lead to sterility and suicide, that half the gay male teenagers in the United States have tested positive for the AIDS virus, and that touching a person's genitals "can result in pregnancy," a congressional staff analysis has found.

...(Other) misconceptions cited by Waxman's investigators:


• A 43-day-old fetus is a "thinking person."


• HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, can be spread via sweat and tears.


• Condoms fail to prevent HIV transmission as often as 31 percent of the time in heterosexual intercourse.


One curriculum, called "Me, My World, My Future," teaches that women who have an abortion "are more prone to suicide" and that as many as 10 percent of them become sterile

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...3-2004Dec1.html

[Wolfie]

Its amazing how much crap these people can pull out thier asses on a regular basis. :reallymad: :reallymad: :reallymad:

[slum_goddess]

that's (almost) treasonous talk, Wolfie. bah...

'federally-funded' propaganda programmes....assholes!

[Redneck4sure]

Wolfie, on Dec 2 2004, 01:42 AM, said:

Its amazing how much crap these people can pull out thier asses on a regular basis.  :reallymad:  :reallymad:  :reallymad:

You ought to hear some of the stories at a company meeting at Boeing! Those people can really pull crap out of their ass.

This post has been edited by Redneck4sure: 02 December 2004 - 10:52 PM

[Wolfie]

Quote

that's (almost) treasonous talk, Wolfie.

*Waits for the FBI to kick down the door. :rolleyes:

[DudeAsInCool]

Occassionally there are some bright teachers:

12/03/04 - Posted from the Daily Record newsroom
Morris 1st-grader brings in grenade

Parsippany school ordered evacuated

By Laura Bruno, Daily Record

PARSIPPANY -- A first-grader who wanted to share his family vacation souvenir with classmates brought a hand grenade for show-and-tell at the Eastlake School on Thursday, prompting a 30-minute evacuation, authorities said.

During snack time, the pupil asked his classroom teacher if he could make a show-and-tell presentation with something he brought from home. When asked what he had to show, the boy told his teacher he had a grenade.

The teacher took the grenade from the first-grader and brought it to the main office, notifying Principal Tena Wright, who ordered an evacuation shortly before 10:30 a.m.

http://www.dailyreco...ws4-Grenade.htm

[Shawn]

Not sure where this guy is, but maybe move him into internet learning.

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