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#1 User is offline   Undying Wizard 

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 02:45 AM

hello all I'm back, go to my orignal thread and read the last post

I'm goin to start back up again since I have alot more time now--- I guess since I have the most viewed thread in the metal section I should return

ohh and if you all think I should add to my 1st thread instead of making a new one let me know.

soon I will return but for now it's way past my bed time I have to be to class in 6 hours.

just wanted you all to know I'm back for a longer stay than before
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Posted 29 April 2004 - 02:57 AM

Welcome back, and yes, you should rev up the bigger thread again :bigsmile:
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Posted 29 April 2004 - 09:08 AM

A coincidence?

Just the last few days I thought, "where is wizard?" First I thought you were unaptly named, but now I see you do indeed live on.

:D This one or the old one, up to you.
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Posted 29 April 2004 - 12:33 PM

well I have made my choice to start this thread up, make some changes then how I did things before , and well here it goes......

the band I will suggest today is really not rare but they kick ass, alot of you may or may not have heard of them

Today's Band is Dismember, good album is Massive Killing Capacity
alot of people didn't think that was a good album but it reminds me a little of six feet under for some reason.

here's a little about the band:

Dismember was originally formed as a trio in Stockholm, Sweden, in 1988 by David Blomqvist, Robert Sennebäck and Fred Estby. Within 18 months they had released two demos called "Dismembered" and "Last Blasphemie", both of which became very popular. The band has since then undergone several line-up changes. In late 1989 the band broke up with Blomqvist and Estby joining the new upcoming band Carnage. In early 1991 Carnage broke up when Michael Amott left to join the British Carcass. The remaining Carnage members Estby, Matti Kärki and Blomqvist decided to resurrect Dismember.
The newly reborn Dismember trio recorded a new demo called "Reborn In Blasphemy", after which Sennebäck returned to the band and Richard Cabeza from Carbonized joined in on bass. With the completion of the line-up they were offered a couple of record contracts and decided to sign with the German Nuclear Blast. In early 1991 Dismember recorded their debut album "Like An Ever Flowing Stream" in Sunlight Studio which was released in May. In June 1991 they went on their first European tour with Morbid Angel which ended before it was completed because of disagreements with the headliner.

In March 1992 they released a 5-track EP called "Pieces" and in May-July they went on a new tour through Europe together with Napalm Death and Obituary. In July they were subjects of an obscenity trial at Her Magistrates Court in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, UK, where the band's lyrics to the track "Skin Her Alive" were described as "hideous, frightfull and repulsive to the senses... liable to inspire a sense of violence in the listener". However the magistrate decided that the lyrics were not intended to inspire criminal acts. They now started working on their new album "Indecent And Obscene".

Soon after the release they went on their first American tour, followed by anouther European one. Dismember has become one of the leading brutal death metal bands in the world and in early 2001 they went from Nuclear Blast to the Dutch upcoming label Hammerheart Records

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 01:38 PM

I love the album covers for Metal Bands. Why do the artists who make them tend to be more creative than alot of other genres??
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Posted 29 April 2004 - 10:47 PM

Undying Wizard, on Apr 29 2004, 10:33 AM, said:

In early 1991 Carnage broke up when Michael Amott left to join the British Carcass.

Is the band called British Carcass or are you referring to a British band called Carcass?

If it's the latter, is it the same Carcass that released the Heartwork album? If so, I didn't realize they were British. Good music though.

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Posted 30 April 2004 - 03:27 AM

Lord_of_the_Dense, on Apr 29 2004, 10:47 PM, said:

Is the band called British Carcass or are you referring to a British band called Carcass?

If it's the latter, is it the same Carcass that released the Heartwork album? If so, I didn't realize they were British. Good music though.

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about the british part Im not sure I got that part from a website,,,


I was wondering the same thing tho, but Im almost sure they mean Carcass


I do belive Carcass is a British band.. but not sure--- I'll do some research about tht..


actually DUDEASINCOOL, you should answer that your the one who's best at it--- I'll give you 14 hours from now to answer it and in the meantime I will look over a few things


since dudeasincool was my righthandman in Wizard's part 1 he my as well do some things here---

cause now I plan on addin band info myself and thts wht dude use to do I gotta make sure he does somthing,, right ??? LOL


cant just cut him off like tht





(edit) ohh and this thread is barly a day old and has had over 60 views, but only 6 replys-- come on people just cause it says wizard's suggestions doesnt mean you cant add to it that was one thing that made me stop before but I never made ir clear that this is a thread for all to add to,,, dont be shy I wont talk shit if I dont like the metal you suggest-- even if it sounds like crapy Korn music --- I'll try any band out once

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Posted 30 April 2004 - 03:49 AM

ohh and one thing I should probaly have PM a mod about this but

in the forum list where you can go to diffrent music , under metal is what it say

Heavy/Pop/Nu/Death/Black/Screamers/Extreme
Forum Led by: ASUmusicMAN, Umma




please remove the pop part,,, there is not a thing tht has to do with metal and POP--- if that POP part stays there I swear if its still there in a week from now I will never post here again,,, sorry to be mean but really remove that POP crap from the metal forum or eles Im gone for sure this time,, I wantto get a real good thread goin, like I meant to before but that pop thing is scary ( makes me think umm boop hansoon LOL )


please remove tht crap, metal has NOOO POP inless the amp blows up

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Posted 30 April 2004 - 04:52 AM

Welcome back, Undying One!


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Posted 30 April 2004 - 10:01 AM

Undying Wizard, on Apr 30 2004, 01:49 AM, said:

please remove the pop part; there is not a thing that has to do with metal and POP--- if that POP part stays there I swear if it's still there in a week from now I will never post here again. sorry to be mean but really remove that POP crap from the metal forum or else I'm gone for sure this time. I want to get a real good thread goin, like I meant to before but that pop thing is scary ( makes me think umm boop Hanson LOL )


please remove that crap, metal has NOOO POP unless the amp blows up

I have to scream my agreement about this. If you are going to place Pop here, you might as well have one general category called Music and dump everything into it.

I consider myself an avid listener of metal music and I have never heard a category called "Screamers." This almost sounds like a stereotype that people use who do not understand the metal music they are listening to. Music is not classified, IMO, by the way the lead singer sounds. It is categorized by the music first, then most likely the lyrics, followed by the singer.

I also have a little trouble with the term "Extreme." Just what is this supposed to represent? If the music posted here is of decent caliber, all of it can be considered extreme. That is, unless you are referring to the band Extreme, although labeling them as metal is most likely an overstatement. Hard Rock at the best. I will say that Nuno Bettencourt is an awesome guitarist though.

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PS. - what's wrong with "Mmmmm Bop"? :bigsmile:
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Posted 30 April 2004 - 05:52 PM

This might belong is a separate topic, but speaking of having "pop" and "extreme" and "screamers" as subcategories of metal, what is your favorite or preferred subcategory? Do you even try to separate bands into subcagetories?

I used think there were only two subcategories - metal I like, and metal I don't like. I still think that for the most part, but in searching for new stuff to listen to I sometimes find it helpful to check out bands from specific subcategories.

I tend to like power metal or traditional metal the most, although sometimes I might check out progressive metal and death metal bands.

How 'bout you? What kinda metal do you like best?

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Posted 30 April 2004 - 11:38 PM

I understand your message but I was not the one to categorize in the first place. As UDW and I have pointed out, Pop is inappropriate. Perhaps there should be no sub-heading on this forum. Metal is metal. Regardless of whether it is techno-metal or glam metal, I doubt anyone would be so confused enough to place it under The 50's or Classical.

Personally I do not sort anything I own into sub-categories. I do believe they are necessary for the sake of differentiating between the bands, however. This is normally done between metalheads who try to pinpoint the specific style of metal a band plays. It basically acts as a reference and narrows down multiple choices.

I like all types of metal. The 4 you mentioned and then some. Depending on who you ask, there can be just "Metal" or 20 different types. By the time I have brainstormed a portion of them, I could have enjoyed a few songs and a beer.

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Posted 01 May 2004 - 02:30 AM

I really wouldent have left if the POP thing wasent removed I was just trying to make a point.


for some reason I thought about todays band dew to the POP thing when Lord Of The Dense said somthing about Glam


todays band is " Odin " good album is 'Dont Take NO For a Answer'
( I thought about this band when LOTD said somthing about Glam because this band in the 80's dressed like girls but thier music is black metal , and they kick ass)
I wanted to do what I do what I did with the last band I posted about, but there is no info I could find about this band on the net.

all I could find about them is this ( the song list for the album I spoke about

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1. 3:57 1 the writer


2. 2:32 2 one day to live


3. 5:28 3 shinning love


4. 4:26 4 soloar eye


5. 2:24 5 dont take no for an answer


6. 4:18 6 judgement day


7. 3:00 7 little gypsy


8. 3:50 8 she needs my love


9. 3:30 9 no reason to run


10. 3:10 10 over your head


11. 4:22 11 she was the one


12. 3:06 12 play the fool


13. 1:54 13 matter of time


14. 3:51 14 judgement day


15. 5:33 15 midnight flight


16. 6:34 16 the blade







this is what you call a RARE BAND,,,, if you can find info on them please post it - I looked for the last 30 mins for info and almost didnt want to post about them cause I didnt have any info on them---- but hey this thread is about rare bands so here you go...

DUDEASINCOOL get to work your good at geting info


this is the only post I plan on posting with no album cover-info,,,,,, but that proves this is a rare band









ohh and Im glad that POP crap was removed... THNX !
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Posted 01 May 2004 - 12:36 PM

<< I understand your message but I was not the one to categorize in the first place.>>

I know....I was just trying to make conversation and get everyone's opinion on the whole sub-category thing.

If you know who likes what, it's easier to make recommendations based on that info.


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Posted 01 May 2004 - 12:46 PM

when i first started exploring metal, i had no idea there were all these categories. i found them on some metal sites and search engines. i subtracted pop already. we can subtract or add more--so its good the EXPERTS are chiming in. the categories must have some relevance as you are categorizing stuff yourself. so let me know if you want more changes and what they should be
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